Kids found with Pot

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Kids found with Pot

Postby bkhote on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:50 am

As per a town newspaper, they conducted a surprise check (K9) at the THMS and found few kids with Pot on the school property.
I don't get it... why majority of people in this town voted to legalize Pot?
With the old deterrence of getting arrested for possessing marijuana gone, expect more such incidences
and increased headache for the school and the police dept.
With the old law, those students could have been arrested? Now, they get away with just a citation ( like a traffic violation)
and lost school time of several days. We are not going in the right direction friends.
I think we need to amend the law to limit use of marijuana where it is required medically and bring back the old
penalties for the rest of the cases?.... town/state representatives are you listening?

--BK
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Re: Kids found with Pot but ban 32 oz soda

Postby Josh Lyman on Fri Feb 15, 2013 9:54 am

liberal idiocy is what it is. they force upon you their ideals like no soda over 32 oz., no trans fats though it was the government that originally forced trans fats on us years ago to replace saturated fats, spend billions of our tax dollars on anti smoking campaigns then turn around and legalize pot. of course when you have many liberal parents that are pot heads themselves and do nothing to control their children and let them run the house what do you expect.
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Re: Kids found with Pot but ban 32 oz soda

Postby bkhote on Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:54 am

Josh,

I agree with your following comment.
"of course when you have many liberal parents that are pot heads themselves and do nothing to control their children and let them run the house what do you expect"

But I am not sure about blaming gov. on this since majority of town and state voters brought this upon all of us?? :?

BK
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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby bobr on Fri Feb 15, 2013 3:45 pm

Hello:

I support the legalization of marijuana for medical and recreational use.
Similar to alcohol, I would support laws that made it illegal for someone under the age of 21 to buy, transport, or possess marijuana.

Bob Rauseo
Liberal non-pothead
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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby moretpani on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:28 pm

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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby attyfroio on Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:31 pm

Josh,

I am one liberal who did not vote to legalize marijuana. My guess is that there was a lot of support for decriminalization from the fringe right libertarians as well. Drugs are a serious issue in our society and I see marijuana as a gateway drug.
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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby bobr on Fri Feb 15, 2013 5:26 pm

Hello:

I see excessively harsh marijauna laws as a gateway into the judicial system.
Excessive penalties can create a criminal record that may deny people access to college loans, certain professions, voting rights, and other benefits.
With many avenues for success unavailable, the opportunity to become a productive citizen is diminished.
I believe this lack of opportunity is a major contributing factor in later antisocial behavior.

Where do you imagine we would be If every businessman, lawyer, doctor, and teacher who ever smoked marijuana had been arrested, convicted, and prevented from pursuing a career?

It is time to stop the hypocrisy. Legalize and regulate.

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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby reginas on Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:38 pm

bobr wrote:Hello:

I see excessively harsh marijauna laws as a gateway into the judicial system.
Excessive penalties can create a criminal record that may deny people access to college loans, certain professions, voting rights, and other benefits.
With many avenues for success unavailable, the opportunity to become a productive citizen is diminished.
I believe this lack of opportunity is a major contributing factor in later antisocial behavior.

Where do you imagine we would be If every businessman, lawyer, doctor, and teacher who ever smoked marijuana had been arrested, convicted, and prevented from pursuing a career?

It is time to stop the hypocrisy. Legalize and regulate.

Bob Rauseo


100% agree

Twice recently, cause I also agreed with "let the kids wear what they want" - just didn't agree with what I thought to be the hypocrisy of that 1 stance.

First, Pot or alchohol shouldn't be at school or at all or for anyone under the age of 18 (I know the law is 21, but pretty stupid if you ask me).

However, to think that if they did a K9 drug sweep and every kid with a joint s/b arrested and have that follow them around for the rest of their lives is ridiculous.

If a kid is dealing, then a different story.

If they had done a K9 sweep when I was at TMHS, then half the school would have been caught and they wouldn't have been able to field one athletic team - boys or girls.

Let's get real folks.

To add to Bob's list: Presidents, the politicians that write the laws, cops, firemen, emt's - and a host of other productive, hard working members of the work force who may have smoked in HS, college or even still would take a hit after working all day, the kids went to bed as opposed to having 3 martinis.

drinking and driving/smoking and driving - not cool. At a party, smoke a joint as opposed to drinking 20 beers and drooling on yourself - I have no problem with.

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agrees more with Bob than he probably thought, liberterian leaning, wants government to stop legislating our lives, fiscally conservative leaning republican, a could give a rats ass about most of the social issues represented by the Republican Party, still waiting for the Obama administration to jail any bankers responsible for the current world economic crisis proud american.
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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby elfling8 on Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:50 pm

I agree with bobr. Legalize it, tax it, regulate it.

What is concerning to me is that it sounds like the kids cars were also searched. While anything within the school (lockers included) is school property and can/should be searched at will, the cars are not. They should need a warrant to search the inside of cars.

This statement is rather confusing to me: " they force upon you their ideals like no soda over 32 oz., no trans fats though it was the government that originally forced trans fats on us years ago to replace saturated fats, spend billions of our tax dollars on anti smoking campaigns then turn around and legalize pot"
You don't want the government to control what kind of crap you can eat and drink (and I agree with you 100% - the demise of personal accountability for making yourself sick or fat is absurd), but yet you do want them to spend tons of unnecessary time, money, and police effort to control a mild substance which causes a fraction of the problems alcohol cause, that also has proven medical use.
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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby patriot on Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:49 am

How would we regulate it? Is there a test to see how "high" someone is? By law we have a blood level for drunk driving, anyone have a clue what it would be for pot? It is understandable for adults to believe it is something we can live with but kids do not have the capacity to make the same adult decisions.
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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby Josh Lyman on Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:34 pm

considering obama was a pot head himself in Hawaii i'm not suprised he doesn't give a crap. he also doesn't care that welfare money and ebt cards are being used to buy pot. this is socialism at its best. wasting your money to get high.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/a-users-g ... rack-obama
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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby bobr on Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:31 pm

I was surprised to read that the President of the United States was aware that four TMHS students were given citations for marijuana possession.

I would be very interested in knowing how Josh Lyman knows how the pot was purchased.

I believe most marijuana growers, like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson before them (you could look it up), are capitalists, not socialists.

I think the war on drugs has been the real waste of money.

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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby Josh Lyman on Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:18 pm

you say the war on drugs was a waste. So do you think it's ok for the new war on food, war on large drinks, war on bottled water, war on people who want to have the ability to protect themselves with a gun, and on and on and on. this is where it all falls apart. its ok to rage a war on all this but god forbid you prevent the libs from having their best tool for buying votes, free pot on the public dime.

fine if you believe in medicinal pot i'm not saying i dont. why can't it be sold through legit pharmacies instead of separate medicinal pot houses? if it is to be legal for medicinal use, then it is to be treated like all other drugs.
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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby elfling8 on Sun Feb 17, 2013 3:22 pm

Yes the war on drugs is a waste. Yes the war on large soft drinks etc. is also a waste and completely ridiculous. Why do you think that people who are for legalizing marijuana want to regulate what people eat and drink? I would assume exactly the opposite.
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Re: Kids found with Pot

Postby bkhote on Wed Feb 20, 2013 2:02 pm

elfling8 ,

"What is concerning to me is that it sounds like the kids cars were also searched. While anything within the school (lockers included) is school property and can/should be searched at will, the cars are not. They should need a warrant to search the inside of cars."

I am fine with these means they use to catch bad guys and keep schools safe.
We should inculcate not being cheats/criminals instead of indulge in a criminal activities and then
think of how to exploit a legal loop-holes.
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